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Old Jun 07, 2005, 03:57 PM // 15:57   #21
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You get someone to 0/0 HP and spam res on them to un-exploit the corpse.

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Old Jun 07, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45   #22
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minions in PvP are not worth the trouble period end of story.

As a good necro max out curses/blood there is nothing like curses in PvP. Lingering Curse might be the best elite spell in the entire game for PvP. with a good team that can concentrate damage a monk will not be able to remove hex in enough time to counter it, and lets face it the key to PvP is killing the monks over and over again if ened be.

Anyways you are correct when you say that a warrior is not match for a propery specced out necro, ( try explaining this to them though lol). be that as it may once you get into a good PvP group they will know the value of a good curse necro and will be happy to have you in it as llong as you are not tanking and dying all the time.

Just remember that although minion armies might look cool they are of very very limited use in PvP
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Old Jun 07, 2005, 04:56 PM // 16:56   #23
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You get someone to 0/0 HP and spam res on them to un-exploit the corpse.

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What do you mean "spam res on them"? Start and cancel something like Rebirth or Resurrect over and over? Or have multiple people try to rez simultaneously?

If you really can 'un-exploit' an exploited corpse by performing some esoteric set of actions, that sounds like an exploit (something the devs didn't intend to happen), and something that A.Net should fix.
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Old Jun 07, 2005, 07:53 PM // 19:53   #24
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What do you mean "spam res on them"? Start and cancel something like Rebirth or Resurrect over and over? Or have multiple people try to rez simultaneously?

If you really can 'un-exploit' an exploited corpse by performing some esoteric set of actions, that sounds like an exploit (something the devs didn't intend to happen), and something that A.Net should fix.
nothing exotic just have someone commit suicide use their body then res them rinse repeat .

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Just remember that although minion armies might look cool they are of very very limited use in PvP
I will agree with him for the most part you definatly dont want to base your single build around minions if its a minion team build yeah or if its just to fill out your skill bar its ok. minions will help finish the battle on those annoying teams that keep resing and thats about it. they arent going to decide the battle.

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Old Jun 07, 2005, 08:39 PM // 20:39   #25
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Spam Res just means cast it as soon as it finishes casting. It isn't some esoteric buggy trick, the dead character just dies instantly upon being ressed and leaves a new corpse. You get 12-13 minions per minute from a 3 man minionating team. You can run two teams and a couple of healers for 25 minions per minute with support. An abusive strategy? Maybe. Too much fun for words? Definitely.

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Old Jun 07, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51   #26
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I play a N/Me right now and I'm lovin' it, both in PvP and in PvE. The only problem is, I never get noticed...except by the other team.

If the opposing team has a chance to kill me and the monk, they'll usually kill me first. One of the ultimate support characters in the game is a N/Me I'd have to say, at least when it comes to shutting down just about anything. High blood with some curses and domination magic for taking out casters is a great way to take care of just about anything. The blood magic should keep your health up unless you get ganged up on by a load of warriors, and I'll take most any caster one on one, other mesmers are the toughest though, being as though we'll both keep removing/casting hexes and/or using blackout on eachother...all while we have health degeneration of -10, it can get REALLY complicated going back and forth as a N/Me, switching targets is also pretty important.

I'm thinking about turning him into a N/W though, as it just seems to be more fun 'eh? I find that right now...I have a hard time with warriors, I simply don't have the punch to protect myself. I wouldn't mind being able to take down the warriors, and then hex the casters while beating them to death with a large axe or hammer.

If there's ANY reason though, and I'll stress this again...

If there's ANY real reason as to why you'd want to be a necro primary, it's this.

BADASS armor.
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Old Jun 07, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11   #27
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actually i find warriors rather easy to beat one on one. if yo are a N/Me cast empathy, then insidious parasite, then life siphon and watch his health decay while your bar goes up. you can cast a gale on him to knock him down or ether feast him so for sure he cannot cast much of anything on you. you will usually win most battle one v one with a warrior unless they knock you down, but a sword warrior or axe you will pwn.
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Old Jun 07, 2005, 11:35 PM // 23:35   #28
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Firstly gale is an elementist skill and is not available to the N/Me. Secondly, even if you give them a -10 health regen, with life transfer and siphon, that only lasts for about 14 seconds maxed out, then it's only -2 and that will NOT keep you alive against a decent warrior. If you had your curses up pretty high you could weaken them, but that won't help you kill them, only keep you alive a little longer.

If you were a N/W, it isn't bad taking on warriors, in fact welcome it if you're a N/W. Because in those situations you can keep yourself alive using other health stealing blood/weaken curses while doing damage with yer melee.

Either way. Necro armor rocks.
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